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Rock, Soul and PopIdol with Daniel Zangger Borch
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Daniel Zangger Borch, Rock singer, teacher, researcher and author of the Ultimate Vocal Voyage, interview by Gillyanne Kayes for Vocal ProcessGillyanne Kayes interviews Rock singer and researcher Daniel Zangger Borch on performing, voice research and his television work.

Worklife

Gillyanne: I wanted to ask you to talk first about you and the different strands of your worklife. Because you’re a rock musician, you’re a vocal teacher, you’re also a researcher and you are a tv star in Sweden. So tell me about that, how did all of that come about?

Daniel: Well I started out as a singer. I did my CD debut (or LP debut at that time) when I was 18 so I come from a singing background, but not from an academic background like a teaching background. I was living on my music from 18-24. Then I got so many questions about my singing on tour and on records that I just had to find answers. I applied to the Royal College, the University of Music in Stockholm and they didn’t have any answers when I was attending their courses. So I thought no-one has any answers to my questions so I have to look them up myself. And that was how I came in contact with Johan Sundberg for the first time. I wanted to check out if we rock, pop and soul singers could benefit from the singer’s formant when we were singing live. That was my first question. And from that day I’ve been doing a lot of teaching and research, and singing less and less, but still doing it anyway.

Gillyanne: I wanted to ask you about this myth that rock and pop singers don’t need technique. Because you know when you read the magazines and the cultural stuff then in a way almost, to train you voice is the opposite to pop, and yet clearly you’re running your own voice centre. You must have a take on that.

Daniel: Yes, well I think that everyone can benefit from a good technique, but not all need the good the technique to accomplish what they want to do. That depends on what we mean by technique. Is it the ability to have a good stamina, or to sing an hour three days a week. Or is technique something that could strengthen your interpretation ability. In the interpretation ability, that kind of technique is always beneficial because you can never be too good at getting your phrasing or your text to the audience. You can never be too good to get your audience to feel something. Do you know what I mean?

Gillyanne: Absolutely.

Daniel: So that is a never-ending job. But if it’s technique that we’re talking about in the sense of being able to sing and not damage your voice, then some people don’t need it. Some people just sing, sing, sing.

Working on PopIdol

Daniel: I have some people right now, they don’t know anything about anything about voice. They’ve just sung. When I say they’re not in pitch, they ask me what’s pitch? And they’re in the top ten in this programme! So they can sing, but they cannot sing correctly from a technical point of view, but that doesn’t matter, because, so far, they are able to sing what they want to do in the amount they want to. So we’ll see about it in the long run. You never know. In the long run everyone sooner or later comes to the conclusion “I need something. I need to be more knowledgeable about my voice and my technique.”

Gillyanne: So you’re talking now about the tv show. Is it sort of like XFactor, Pop Idol, that sort of thing?

Daniel: It is Pop Idol in Sweden. I think with XFactor the only place to do it is the UK isn’t it?

Gillyanne: And what’s your experience been? Obviously you’ve talked about this particular group. What’s it like having to do that every week.

Daniel: Every week, three days a week. It’s fun because you can see all the results at once. I meet them Wednesday and we go through the song for 40 minutes, then I see them Thursday on stage with cameras and everything, you know, 20 minutes, and then I have choreography and camera – where the cameras are and stuff like that. And then we vocalise, we warm up and cool down, and on Friday it’s the same thing, and then we have a rehearsal, and then it’s live. In Sweden this is one of the top 5 of the biggest programmes, 1.3million I think.

Gillyanne: Wow, congratulations!

Daniel: That’s a lot in Sweden, we’re a small country. So the thing is then you can see the results from Wednesday in a live performance on tv on Friday and you’re like, how much could they take in of what I told them? And that’s not a lot!

Gillyanne: No, because they’re under enormous pressure aren’t they, in this kind of show.

Daniel: Enormous. So maybe 20% of what I’ve said. And I say the same thing on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday for 10 times, maybe. And then when the programme starts, 20% is still as we talked about. And 80% is gone! So my goal with this is (and I told them), in the end when you’ve done like 15 tv shows, then maybe we can have 80% that you can remember of what I’ve told you, and 20% that you forget.

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